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APRA

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Gamino's Bird

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Tumbler 1

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Interview with Loko Moob

Posted 2013-04-27 22:59:17 | Views: 1,746
What is your name?
Nrhoua Xiong

Where are you from?
Sacramento CA

Where do you live?
Sacramento CA

What is your age?
04/10/91, do the math

Do you have a family?
Yes, my moms, my pops, my 3 older brothers, 2 neices, 1 sister-in-law and a big load of pigeons.

Religious? Not Religious?
I don’t know yet.

Are you working or are you a student?
I’m working with a family business right now.

When did you get your first pigeon?
I acquired then in 04, or 05 don’t really remember now.

When did you get your first parlor?
I got them in 06 or 07, don’t remember, but I remember that it was in the summer. Had them for too long LOL.

What other kinds of pigeons do you have?
Birmingham rollers that go back to Joe Emberton, his runt stuff, and a few other birmingham rollers from a line my brother and his friends developed in the late 90s. Also have ferral pigeons my brother acquires from trapping them in at his workplace, but they do not last long. Usually sell them or eat them in 2 weeks.

Do you consider yourself a breeder?
I consider myself a lover of parlor rollers.

What is your loft/coop/pigeon dwelling like?
I have a big loft and rabbit cages that can hold up to 300 birds if I wanted to push for that many.

What feed brand/mix do you use? Why?
Every breeder has their preferences  you got to learn how to work with your family. I give my breeders winner’s cup 12 percent and poultry maker, while I give my young weaned birds winner’s cup only. The reason why I do not give my young birds poultry maker is because it makes them fat and ruins the conditioning. Poultry maker is there for my breeders because it helps me produce and keep the unweaned birds fat and healthy until they can eat on their own.

What is it about parlors that makes you so stoked about them?
Parlors are easier to handle than any other performance breed of pigeons in my opinion. All I have to do is feed them and give them water,when time comes they will perform for me. I live a busy life and do not have time to watch my birds fly so they are the best performing breed of pigeons for me.
Why, out of all the pigeon breeds do you choose to keep parlors?
Parlors are easy to manage  and they perform right in front of you. I don’t have time to fly any performance breeds and I’m a competitive kind of guy.

Would you consider yourself a novice, intermediate or a pro when it comes to parlors?
To be honest, I have been breeding parlors since the mid 2000s and I believe I am still a novice at this. Good thing I love about the breed, and possibly my family of birds is that there is always something to learn from these guys. I am always learning something new when I go into the loft and I doubt I will ever stop learning.

Do you understand pigeon genetics?
That’s a tough one, I understand color breeding but unlike the book, you never know what you get from each egg and each breeding. If there was a gene to make your parlor rollers roll farther, that would be the something I’d like to understand. LOL.

What are your future plans with regards to pigeons/parlors?
I just want to enjoy the parlor rollers that I have and hopefully breed enough to continue to have them in my life. To me the roll doesn't really matter, although having it would be nice. I believe that parlor rollers not only should roll long, they should also be good parents, and be able to reproduce on their own. Those are the birds I want to work with, who needs a far rolling bird if it won’t be able to produce for you?

What bugs you the most about the parlor world?
Lots of things bug me about the parlor world, but talking about it won’t get anything done. I love meeting new people, competing against the locals and most definitely I love having my family of parlor rollers and even learning from them.

What does the parlor world need?
The parlor world needs a lot of things. But simply put, sometimes too much competition kills it. Sometimes people expect to pay a lot of money and get a bird that will roll 200 feet every time they perform the bird. That would be pretty rare to find. Everybody has their own ideals on what their standards of a parlor roller should be, but there aren't many people who are willing to work with what they have to get their birds that way.

Do you compete with your parlors? How do you feel about the competitions? Changes?
Yes I do compete with my parlor rollers locally in Sacramento. I love competitions within our club. The best thing about parlor roller competition is meeting the locals who also share the same passion for parlors that I do. It would be fun to win and have something to brag about, especially when you beat a close friend, but having a great time with people and parlors is the key to keeping the sport to continue.

What do you look for in a bird? For example, if you were to buy a parlor, what are the main things that you look at, feel etc?
I haven’t looked for a parlor roller for a while now, but if I did buy a parlor roller, I just want to make sure it comes from a breeder who is reliable. If it is coming from a breeder who is a veteran breeder, there must be a reason why he kept and bred the bird. If the bird is a sibling or parent of a bird that certified, that’s even better. 
You never know what you get until you perform the offspring you produce. If out of 6 birds I do not get a good bird, I switch the pairs. After a while you get to know what your birds can produce and that’s when the true breeding process begins. The best birds aren't what others have, it’s what you have and can work with.
Interview: Loko Hmoob
Do you have one favorite bird? If so, why?
I’ve had many favorite birds over the years but the birds I remember the most are 3 birds I had that died in 2009. It’s a shame they died to a dog attack but these 3 were birds that I still remember. A black white flight hen, and a grizzled hen and her father, a grizzle cock I named Godzilla. The black and white flight hen was a pure sister to my 6333 opal hen that I acquired from my buddy named Chang Vang, this hen’s brother rolled a good 166 feet and boy I tell you, she may have not been able to roll as good as her brother but I could throw her onto any cockbird and she would produce better birds than her brother could, not to say that her sister I have now, 6333, can’t throw any good birds herself but it’s just not the same anymore. 
The grizzled hen and her father, that I named Godzilla, were the first parlor rollers I acquired. My brother passed them onto me and that was when I fell in love with parlor rollers and knew that this was the breed for me. This pair actually produced roll, though I was a novice at the time, this was one of the best pairs ever. Both could barely roll to the 20 foot mark, but I tell you, I produced a good amount of birds off this pair and somehow after a few rolls I could get the offsprings to go a good 50 feet or so the same day. If only I still had this pair I think I would be better off but everything happens for a reason. 
Describe your daily interaction with your parlors. For example, do you wake up and take care of your birds? How often do you feed them? How much time per day do you spend with the parlors?
For the breeders, I feed them every Wednesday and Sunday. During the summer I have to check up on them twice a week because the weather in California is hot and usually the water dries out. 
During the winter I check up on them once a week because the water lasts longer. I leave the breeders with enough food to last them a week, it’s the water that determines my visits. Right now it is summer and I have to check up on them to make sure they have enough water every 3 to 4 days, they usually last  but it’s good to refill the water up. I add a little bit of bleach into the water every 3 weeks to keep the water bowl clean. It doesn't affect my breeders at all.
For the younger birds, I try to keep them conditioned. Everyday I feed my young birds ust enough but keep them starving.  They get excited every time I walk into the loft and some even flip when they see me. 
On Wednesdays I like to take the younger birds out of the loft, put them in an outside cage and gently spray them with the water hoes. Most of the young birds love it and will hold a wing in the air or try to fly after being sprayed. Then I put them back.
I rarely touch them for any other purposes until come time for competition and I have to lock them in.

Do you have any pictures of you parlors that you can share?
http://www.freewebs.com/parlorrollers/apps/photos/

Any advice to give to beginners?
For Parlor Roller beginners I’d say “if they can roll 10 feet, breed them and see what you get. To get started it doesn't matter if you have a  10 footer or a 200 footer, it’s what you can produce from them. Try to understand your family of birds and work with what you have first.” 
by Darren Seelye
What bothers you most about parlor pigeons?
A lot of things but if you take care of your pigeons and make them happy, they will produce good results for you.

Interview with Chance C. Lee

Posted 2013-04-26 14:39:02 | Views: 1,974

Chance c. lee

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Interview by Darren Seelye

What is your name?

Chance C. Lee.


Where are you from?

My parents are from Laos. I’m Hmong. Born in Connecticut.


Where do you live?

St. Paul, Minnesota.


What is your age?

30.


Do you have a family?

Still single.


Religious? Not religious?

I’m LDS, served a 2 year mission for my church in the Philippines.


Are you working or are you a student?

Graduated college and looking for a decent job.


When did you get your first pigeon?

My brothers and my dad got into utility meat pigeons, homers, and Lahores when I was about 8 years old. 


When did you get your first parlor?

I got my first parlors around 2009 or 2010 from a guy in Missouri. I didn’t have the patience to wait for quality stock, so I snatched up the first ones I saw on the internet. They bred a young that flew a little, especially to meet me when I fed them which I did not like very much. I soon located better stock in Iowa; closer to me in Nebraska and I drove up to get them. I grabbed a red cock, kite cock, black hen, and an almond hen. Those were my first quality parlors that rolled good and had good physical features such as correct eye color and body shape.


What other kinds of pigeons do you have?

I’ve kept utility meat cross breeds, homers, Lahores, rollers, and parlors. However my last 2 years in the pigeon hobby consisted of just rollers and parlors.


Do you consider yourself a breeder?

If I had the space and time money I would breed thousands of parlors. I love this breed very much. However, I just had a small operation and kept 2 pairs with 2 extra hens as my breeding stock rotating the hens back and forth, while taking their youngs to the shows.


What is your loft/coop/pigeon dwelling like? Dimensions?

I’m not good with measurements hehe. I had them in a box shape housing that was about 4x4 and about 3 feet high. With mesh wires for windows on two sides and a door, along with moveable dividers that stood on legs in their housing compartment.


What feed brand/mix do you use? Why?

I just used a standard homer pigeon mix due to that was the same feed I feed my homers. Its good to keep them on a light mix before competition though.


Do you have one favorite bird? If so, why?

I have a recessive red cock (one of the originals that I bought), band number APRA 910 bred by Dewey Skilling of Iowa and he was hatched in 2005. He was old but was still driving the hens. He had a nice head, very short beak, all muscle and very compact and he had his wings drooping down like a Oriental Roller. He only certified at 107 feet, but he was my favorite. I sold him with the rest of my parlors to Colorado and I would like him back if he decides to get rid of him.

This recessive red’s granddaughter which is a tort is also my favorite. I didn’t take her to the show, but she acts like a human because I babied her a lot as a squab. Her father, a kite, was my first hatchling parlor for my first year. Second year produced none and this tort was actually hatched and fostered by my flying rollers (she was hatched my third year with parlors). When I go feed them she is the first to greet me and she wants to get out of the pen. She likes to jump on top of the breeder nesting box and look out the mesh wire windows as well. She breaks a lot of tail feathers because she is always jumping up and down the breeder nesting boxes to view outside the windows.


What is it about parlors that makes you so stoked about them?

They look super nice to my eyes. I like the way they are built, the way they are put together; small, compact, muscular, pearl eyes. They are not aggressive and they hardly ever fight. They are very passive for pigeons. They will feed other youngsters in the same pen. They were a breed meant for me. I really do love them a lot.


What bothers you most about parlor pigeons?

They are not really good a parents. They hatch well, but they don’t feed them well the first couple weeks of life until the squabs are a little bit older. They usually just feed the bigger baby and so you have to let them feed the smaller one first then add the bigger baby later after the smaller one been feed.

My parents call this breed “stupid,” but I like them.

Rolling in the loft can be a problem with some of them, so it’s important to make sure you try to reduce rolling in the loft and that can be done by keeping them in a smaller area. If youhave an unstable parlor that keeps rolling in the loft, it will make the others start to roll as well because the actions of that unstable parlor will scare the others into rolling. So, it’s important to never spook them. I usually knock on the door before I open as to reduce spinning in the loft or to prevent them from ever spinning in the loft.


Why, out of all the pigeon breeds do you choose to keep parlors?

I think if I’m a pigeon that I would be a parlor myself. I like the fact that they can’t fly and so you can keep them in a backyard in a city environment. They require no flying, they are in essence chickens in my eyes. They have very cool personalities too; very docile.


Would you consider yourself a novice, intermediate or a pro when it comes to parlors?

I think I’m a intermediate. I feel that I’ve learn a lot about the breed itself and how to care for them. Next step is to raise some super long rollers and to get as many as possible to certify in the future to be considered a master breeder.


Do you understand pigeon genetics?

I don’t know much about pigeon genetics or colors, but I do hate color projects within the parlor breed that is happening. I feel it’s important to keep the breed in its purest form otherwise we will lose this breed forever.


What are your future plans with regards to pigeons/parlors?

Well, I sold out of birds and so I’ll like to get back into them one day again. I’ve left the hobby but I’ll be back stronger than ever. I plan to acquire the best available stock when I get back in and to also do my best to maintain the breed characteristics and weed out all the junk mutts that are now all over the place.


What bugs you the most about the parlor world?

The need for breeders to add/bring color into the parlor breed which breaks them down and turns these parlors into flying roller lookalikes that can roll on the ground like parlors.


What do you like most about the parlor world?

Not so sure about the breeders of parlors, but I like the breed very much. There is no other satisfying feel than to buy or breed one yourself that can roll well and have the classic parlor roller physical look.


What does the parlor world need?

The parlor tumbler needs to be maintain and keep alive like in Germany where there are tons of parlor tumblers. The tumbler variety is rare these days in the US and this breed needs a revival. The parlor roller variety will be okay, there are many who breeds this variety.


Do you compete with your parlors? How do you feel about the competitions? Changes?

I’ve only competed with them one year and there still a lot to learn from it especially the “locking in process.” The competitions are fun and it’s nice to mingle with others who keep this breed. I’ve been to a couple parlor shows. The breeding process is fun too as you try to pair up the right birds to get the straightest and longest roller.

What do you look for in a bird? For example, if you were to buy a parlor, what are the main things that you look at, feel, etc?

Pearl eyes are a must. That is the standard eye color!!!! Some say that the eye color doesn’t roll but the pigeon is what rolls. Why judge the parlor by his eye color? We should judge the parlor only by its roll? I disagree, if the breed is allowed to have whatever eye color that we please then the breed will end up being a mongrel breed and not true to it’s form. The pearl eyes sets it apart from other breeds especially the flying rollers. If I see a group of non-pearl eyes parlor for sale, that’s when I know I should move along and don’t touch because I know that they’ve been crossed with the flying rollers. I rather buy a parlor with pearl eyes that doesn’t roll as far compared to buying a parlor with orange/yellow eyes that can roll as far and long as a football field.

I like the parlors with a short tail also. I pay attention to the feet too. I like small, short, stubby, fat toes that some in this breed possesses instead of the long scrawny toes. The breed should be small and compact and should not be long. I don’t like the parlors with the long necks either. When looking at the parlors it should appear as if the head and body are one ( no neck breed is what my cousin calls them ).


Describe your daily interaction with your parlors. For example, do you wake up and take care of your birds? How often do you feed them? How much time per day do you spend with the parlors?

I feed them twice a day, once in the morning and once before dark. I may feed them more depending on if they have young or not. My parlors love greens especially lettuce and they go crazy over it even if they are already full. I think they like the salt that is in the greens and they like the tearing motion of it when the peck at the lettuce. I take them out and put them in a cage and spray them down with a hose to cool them off which they like a lot.

Who do you look up to in the parlor world? Why?

My mentors will always be Rod Ferguson and Larry Jensen of Iowa. I like their parlors and I plan to grab some from them in the future as well as getting some stock from the Southern California area later on.


Do you have any pictures of your parlors that you can share?

Feel free to steal them from my Facebook page lol and you can go to my Youtube page which has all my parlor videos. The most parlor videos created and uploaded to Youtube I believe.


Any advice to give to beginners?

They are not a breed for everybody, so make sure you like them before you get them. They are need a lot of special care since they can’t fly.


APRA

Posted 2013-04-25 15:33:13 | Views: 1,187
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